it's very, very dangerous for him in terms of foreign policy and in terms of the electorate and i think they made a decision it was better to be criticized for being superficial than to riflk dangerous or uncontrollable sound bites coming out of those meetings. >> quick thoughts? >> combined with the avoidance of four leaders, we're going to have a president after election day. >> i agree. it's easier to go on "the view." >> mitt romney said whoopi goldberg was pretty president tough. you know, there's a little bit among some of the establishment press of looking down their collective noses at letterman, leno, the view, "the daily show," why do the candidates waste their time talking the fluffy stuff. everybody uses the sound bites and the clips. romney talking about snooki. asking what you wear to bed, imagining -- i won't even go there. everybody feasts on that stuff and they derive it both days. i don't think there's a problem going on the programs. that's where they live. they don't all watch cable news all the time. >>> when we come back, remember when the media census was paul rya